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مشرف عام

Ya Ali Madad

Dear brothers, and sisters
In five sentences, describe few different activities each of you has done last summer

I am looking forward to receive your replies here

best of luck in your writing

عضو مجمد

Per your request, please find the correction below.

Dear brothers and sisters,
In five sentences, describe few different activities each of you did last summer.

I am looking forward to receiving your replies here.

عضو مجمد

Here are some rules to keep in your mind:

1- Don't use (,& and) together. Use and when you have two things only. Example: Dear brothers and sisters. Use the (,) when you have more than two things. Example:

I am interested in learning English, German, Spanish, Italian and Arabic.

Another example:

Let me have, water, pita bread, salad and chicken legs.

عضو مجمد

I don’t know why editing in English is acting funny in this forum.

Anyways, the second rule is to add the ING to the verb when using looking forward.

Personally, I would phrase your request as follows:

Dear All,

Describe in five sentences few of the extracurricular activates you did last summer.

I am looking forward to receiving your posts.

Good luck to all of you.

عضو مجمد

Last summer, I joined this forum hoping to touch base with some folks from Salamieh. I was really disappointed with the forum’s quality. It had appeared to me that its management was unwilling to accept other thoughts and opinions. Both, free speech and critical thinking were foreign concepts to the management. Finally, I believe that the forum’s management is void and null not to mention they lack knowledge, experience and maturity for such a forum and I do think they represent themselves only NOT my beloved Salamieh.

مشرف عام

Dear Exismaili,

First of all, I would like to welcome you participation in the English section with us.

I really appreciate correcting and rephrasing what I wrote above!

I didn't really understand what you meant by writing"editing in English is acting funny in this forum". Would you, please, clarify?

Personal question if you don't care:

Why is your name "exismaili"?
Why are you being a little aggressive towards the management of this forum? I am so sorry if I am wrong, but this what I could tell from the way you wrote your message, unless you just meant to write the five sentences I mentioned earlier.

Last thing, I have a request , and I hope you don't mind it; since your formal English is excellent as it seems to me, would you like to hold this section down for us? The management, and I will be very happy to have you an active member in our team.

Ya Ali Madad

عضو مجمد

Dearest Mountain Rose:

What I meant by “editing in English is acting funny in this forum” was that when I tried to correct your punctuation, my own punctuation looked funny on its own. I think the root cause was that the forum is configured for the Arabic language not English. When posting in English the writing appears from right to left and every thing is backward including punctuation.

Before I carry on, let me draw your attention to the following: You should have said “if you don’t mind or if you care”. Don’t say if you don’t care as you did above.

My name is clear. Ex –means in the past. It means I am Ismaili by birth and NOT ismaili by choice. You see. It is easy. Please take it easy and don’t get angry.

Please understand that people have the right to choose their belief since it is very personal. You and the management need to accept the idea that people are different and will never adapt the same belief. That’s the way it has been.

Constructive criticism has nothing to do with aggressiveness. To tell you the truth, the current management doesn’t impress me at all. They don’t believe in freedom of expression. They believe that they can preach others to their belief. I think of the forum as an island filled with penguins that are good at jeering only. Participants are very good at chanting and clapping only.

Salamieh is a School of Thought, at least that’s the way I think of it. A school that welcomed everyone (love all serve all) regardless of the individual belief and background.

What piss me off the most is that the forum has nothing to do with Salamieh. I hope that the current management are not form Salamieh. Please don’t get offensive.

Regarding your request, I am afraid I can not take your offer. Thank you though. However, I can help occasionally if you have specific issue that you are not sure about. Don’t hesitate to let me know.

Of course, I will participate once things change in this forum. Alas.

مشرف عام

First, excuse me if I am a little too casual.

Thank you for your quick response

Actually I agree with what you said about the English language setup problem

You said"Please take it easy and don’t get angry". I don't know why you think I was
angry, but seriously I was not. I think I am being very friendly. I hope ou think so , too!

You also said: "Please understand that people..." and so on. It would've been nicer if you said" please notice" because I think we all should think highly of others; I mean we should assume that everyone has a reasonable understanding to what is being said or done. We might, as human, differ in the way our brains receive information, but we still understand anyway. I am hoping that you agree with me about this point.So let me tell you here that we do respect your choice whatever it is. We are in this forum not trying to get you to switch to Ismaili. our goal is a lot higher than this.

About your name, I didn't ask you why you are not an ismaili, or why you switched to another way of thinking . I only asked you why your name is exismili. I think my question was specific enough. I got your answer which was" It means I am Ismaili by birth and NOT ismaili by choice " that answer was a sufficient . thank you for it

I thought you were aggressive just because you were accusing the management and later on you included me, knowing that I have been here for 2 weeks or even less.
Everybody here is willing to listen to you. Please if you have a problem, go ahead and address it in a separte topic, then god willing the problem will definitely be solved.

P.S. This forum is not made for the Salmooni people only, and it's not about Salamieh. I know it's our home town, and it's very precious. but the goal of this forum is to discuss religious issues. I hope that you noticed so

If you are interested, there are a couple or more websites about Salamieh. I can search for the web address for you. but I am sure you have already done that.

I really thank you for taking your time and typing your message. I hope you can find something good here in this forum.
I appreciate your offer to help me occasionally, that is really nice of you. We really might need your help. so please consider this, and try to make some of your time avaiable for us.
Considering you as a brother, please don't judge things that quick. give it one chance, two, or even more . Because as the time goes by, things should get better. it depends on your attitude ,though!

Your sister,

Zahrat Al-Jabal

Ya Ali Madad

عضو مجمد

“Please understand” is a nice way and is being used widely in English. Do NOT translate understand into Arabic. Understand means know, be aware of, realize….it does not mean “learn you stupid” as when translated into Arabic.

I always try to be nice to all. My last post was to address your questions and I tried to answer them only.

You wrote:

“About your name, I didn't ask you why you are not an ismaili, or why you switched to another way of thinking . I only asked you why your name is exismili.”

Yes you did. What you wrote here did not convince me because exismaili is clear and all questions above are the same.

Now, here is the problem that will definitely be solved as you said.

Problem: People are prohibited from freedom of expression in this forum. The rule is to kiss up to the supervisors; otherwise, your topic will be deleted or edited. Supervisors only know it all. If there is a topic that they don’t know the answer to, they would delete it altogether. For example, look at the topics that ALHAMSEEAA deleted especially Ikhwan Alsafa and other subjects addressed by Salmoni and Abu Waed. Look at the promises Alhamseea made to the readers that he had all the topics and would re-post them all. Where are the topics, MANAGEMENT? Can’t you keep your promise!!!!!!! I think a solid belief should stand for itself and I also think that the current management is hurting the Isamili belief for not being able to answer the questions addressed by others and for deleting any sensitive issue to their belief under vague excuses.

Another thing I want to clarify is that what I mean by the management is Alhamseeaa and the other guy Mouhand Ismail only.

Now, I’ll be waiting you to address the issue above as you promised to solve it DEFINITIELY.

Thank you so much for the clarification in your P.S.

I feel so stupid for thinking this forum is mainly for Salmoonis and its goal is not religious issues only. Now, you can ignore my request above regarding the problem that you need to solve definitely.

I am not religious and such religious forum that does not honorits word is not appropriate for me. Rather, I have nothing to do with non-Syrian Ismaili from Pakistan or Canada and they are not my brothers and sisters. I believe they share with Hindu more than what they share with me the Syrian especially language, culture even the look with all respect to all people. All Syrians are my brothers and sisters.

مدير

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

اللهم صلي على محمد وآل محمد

السلام عليكم جميعاً

الأخ العزيز exismaili أو السلموني سابقاً أو أي أسم تختاره مستقبلاً

منتدانا ملك للجميع وهو يرحب بكل صاحب فكر يحب أن يطرحه ويفيد الآخرين فيه

والهميسع عندما أحتفظ بموضوع أخوان الصفاء أو موضوع الخميني وغيره ...!!!

كان المنتدى يحبوا في بدياته ... والهميسع غائب عن المنتدى برفقة والده في مشافي دمشق

وقد ذكرنا لك هذا في رسالة خاصة ...!!

فكان من غير المعقول أن يكون لك مواضيع كثيرة في ساحة الحوار خالية من أي رد لأي للهميسع أو أي أخ أسماعيلي آخر ... حيث كانوا قلة ... والمنتدى غير معروف للكثير منهم .

ووعدناك عندما تنتهي أسباب غيابي ... سوف نعيد مواضيعك جميعاً تباعاً ... مرفقة بتعقيب الهميسع عليها .

ومنتدانا عندما جعل الحضارة عنوان لحواراته مع جميع الموالين والمخالفين

كان يعني ما يقول ... قولاً وفعلاً ... وليس رفع شعارات فقط ...!!

لقد أرسلت لك رسالة خاصة أرحب بعودتك منذ بعض الوقت وقبل أن اطلع على مضمون إرسالك هنا

ولذلك و تطبيقاً لشعار منتدانا ... وعملاً بإعطاء حرية التعبير للجميع

نضمك أخي الكريم exismaili إلى هيئة الأشراف

ويصبح بإمكانك إرجاع أي موضع تم الاحتفاظ به في منتدى المشرفين إلى العام

ومشاركة الإدارة والمشرفين من خلال اقتراحاتك للتطوير المنتدى

وقد سبقك إلى الأشراف في منتدانا الأخ المسيحي bolos

والأشراف وقيادة المنتدى مفتوحة لكل صاحب فكر حر من جميع الملل والطوائف ... وليست حكراً على الهميسع ... !!!

فمنتدانا ينشد الحق أينما وجد ... ويقاتل لنصرته ... !!!

والسلام

مع تحيات الهميسع

ملاحظة هامة

يرجى منك أخ exismaili وكأول مهمة أشرافية

ترجمة رد الهميسع الى اللغة الأنكليزية

كي تتوافق مع الموضع المطروح

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مشرف عام

شكرا أخي الهميسع على هالخطوة. ان شاءالله الأخ exismili يكون رحب بالاشراف متل ما نحنا منرحب فيه.

و بانتظار مشاركاته الفعالة بقسم الحوار الفكري و مساعدتنا بقسم اللغة الانكليزية

يا علي مدد

عضو مجمد

لماذا تظن أن جميع مخالفينك هم شخص واحد. هل تعلمت هذا من المنتدى الأخر؟ السلموني = exismaili = أبو وعد = صديقك الدكتور بالفلسفة.
"منتدانا ملك للجميع وهو يرحب بكل صاحب فكر يحب أن يطرحه ويفيد الآخرين فيه"
ترحيبكم ظاهر للعيان وخاصة أصحاب الفكر الحر!!!!!!! أين دليلك على هذا وأنت تحذف وتقص كيفما اتفق.
منتداكم ملك للجميع ممن تتطابق افكارهم معكم اما من خالفكم فله مقص كبير للقص والحذف.
"والهميسع عندما أحتفظ بموضوع أخوان الصفاء أو موضوع الخميني وغيره ...!!!
كان المنتدى يحبوا في بدياته ... والهميسع غائب عن المنتدى برفقة والده في مشافي دمشق
وقد ذكرنا لك هذا في رسالة خاصة ...!!"
تعيد هنا ماقلته من اشهر. لم لم تعد المواضيع؟ هل لأنك عجزت عنها؟ ومالعيب في ذلك؟ ان طالب العلم مثل العالم ولاأحد يعرف كل شيء ولكن كنت أظن ان غيرك يمكن ان يشارك ايضا.
أنا لاأريدك أن تعيد المواضيع القديمة فأنا قرأتها واستفدت منها ولكن بينت بانك لم تحترم وعودك السابقة باعادتها ليستفيد منها القراء.
المهم الأن ان تبطل عادة القص والحذف إلا إذا كان اللغة بذيئة وسوقية.
وبالنسبة للترجمة فلاأظن أن الأجانب متحمسين لمعرفة ماكتبت. أنا مستعد أن أترجم مشاركات قيمة ذات هدف وأحبذ أن تكون نقدية، فكرية، ذات هدف .
بطل الحذف وهذا كل المطلوب. عندها أعود وأشارك باللغة العربية.
مع تحيات المخالفين.

مدير

بســـــــــــــم الله الرحمن الرحيم

اللهم صلي على محمد وآل محمد

يا عــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــلي مدد

أخي الكريم exismaili الفاضل

لقد أسقطنا من يدك اتهام الهميسع بالتحرير وعدم الإيفاء بوعوده

فأنت مشرف عام في منتدانا و شاركتنا الآدارة ... وأنت أهلاً لهذه الثقة ...!!!

وعندك الحرية المطلقة بإعادة أي موضوع تريد إلى العام

ننتظر جديدك بشكل دائم

والسلام

الهميسع

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عضو برونزي

exismaili

وترجمتها بالعربية:

( اسماعيلي سابق )

فيا ليت السيد exismaili يوضح لنا سبب تركه للاسماعيلية وما هو دينه الجديد.

مع التحية

عضو مجمد

الأستاذ شافعي: سؤالك شخصي جدا. على كل حال تكرم وهاك الإجابة:
سبب تركي للاسماعيلية ببساطة هو أن كتابهم القرآن وإيمانهم أن محمد هو رسول من عند الله. وبالنسبة للدين الجديد فلايوجد. ولكن يوجد فكر وقيم وأخلاق متفق عليها منذ أن وجد الإنسان وحتى قبل ظهور الأديان السماوية والغير سماوية. فمثلا يعلم المسلم ولده بألا يسرق لأن السرقة حرام وسيعاقب السارق بالنار وأنا أعلم ولدي بعدم السرقة لأن الأشياء المسروقة ببساطة ليست له. كما ترى القانون واحد والأساليب مختلفة

عضو برونزي

اقتباس :: الأستاذ شافعي: سؤالك شخصي جدا. على كل حال تكرم وهاك الإجابة:
سبب تركي للاسماعيلية ببساطة هو أن كتابهم القرآن وإيمانهم أن محمد هو رسول من عند الله. وبالنسبة للدين الجديد فلايوجد. ولكن يوجد فكر وقيم وأخلاق متفق عليها منذ أن وجد الإنسان وحتى قبل ظهور الأديان السماوية والغير سماوية. فمثلا يعلم المسلم ولده بألا يسرق لأن السرقة حرام وسيعاقب السارق بالنار وأنا أعلم ولدي بعدم السرقة لأن الأشياء المسروقة ببساطة ليست له. كما ترى القانون واحد والأساليب مختلفة

اعتذر ان وجدت في سؤالي تعديا على خصوصياتك.
جل الأمر ان اختيارك للمعرف جعلني احسب انك ستتوقع استيضاحات مشابهة من الاعضاء والا لاخترت معرفا اخرا لا يشي بشيء عن معتقداتك.

على كل
اشكرك على التفضل بالاجابة واستوقفي قولك:

اقتباس :: فمثلا يعلم المسلم ولده بألا يسرق لأن السرقة حرام وسيعاقب السارق بالنار وأنا أعلم ولدي بعدم السرقة لأن الأشياء المسروقة ببساطة ليست له. كما ترى القانون واحد والأساليب مختلفة

وهنا سيكون من المفيد جدا ان نستفتي سمو الامام كريم لماذا ينهى ابناءه الروحيين عن السرقة...
لكن في قسم الحوار الفكري غلى الرابط

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